Bon à savoir:qlq contradictions flagrantes dans la Bible

1. xxx ( 28/08/2009 07:51)
Désolé, j'ai eu le temps de vérifier les reférences , mais pas le tmps de traduire en français ou en Malgache:
77. (a) Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis
2:17)
(b) Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)
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78. (a) God decided that the life span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
(b) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived
433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)
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79.Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
(a) No (John 3:13)
(b) Yes. «And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven» (2 Kings 2:11)

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Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
(a) Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
(b) Hell (Luke 3:23)
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27.Jesus descended from which son of David?
(a) Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
(b) Nathan (Luke3: 31)
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29.Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
(a) Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
(b) Rhesa (Luke 3:27) but the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i. Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii.
Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v. Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names
Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.
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35.Would Jesus inherit David’s throne?
(a) Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
(b) No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was
cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon David’s throne (Jeremiah 36:30)
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37.How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?
(a) By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
(b) His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)
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38.Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
(a) By the Sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
(b) On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)
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40.Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?
(a) Yes (Mark6: 8)
(b) No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)
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42.Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
(a) Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
(b) No (John 1:32,33)
43.Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?
(a) Yes (John 1:32, 33)
(b) No (Matthew 11:2)
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47.Did Judas kiss Jesus?
(a) Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
(b) No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12)
48.What did Jesus say about Peter’s denial?
(a) «The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times» (John 13:38).
(b) «Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times» (Mark 14:30). When the cock crowed
once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.
49.Did Jesus bear his own cross?
(a) Yes (John 19:17)
(b) No (Matthew 27:31-32)
50.Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?
(a) Yes (Matthew27: 50-5 1;MarklS: 37-38)
(b) No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, «Father, into thy hands I
commit my spirit!» And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)
51.Did Jesus say anything secretly?
(a) No. «I have said nothing secretly» (John 18:20)
(b) Yes. «He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained
everything» (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him «Why do you speak to them in parables?» He said, «To
you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given»
(Matthew 13: 1 0-11)
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52.Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?
(a) On the cross (Mark 15:23)
(b) In Pilate’s court (John 19:14)
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54.Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
(a) Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, «Today you will be with me in Paradise» (Luke 23:43)
(b) No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, «I have not yet ascended to the Father» (John 20:17)
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60.What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?
(a) He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
(b) He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the
temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)
61.How did Judas die?
(a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
(b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle
and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)
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73.What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
(a) «Certainly this man was innocent» (Luke 23:47)
(b) «Truly this man was the Son of God» (Mark 15:39)

novalian'i ni81 ny 18/09/2009 08:34
2. ni81 ( 28/08/2009 07:53)
Azonao navadika teny gasy t@ http://baiboly.org/ io ka! :)
3. tsimiandravola ( 28/08/2009 08:54)
Dia iza ary no ho sahy hamaly an\'io?? Ry zareo raitra amin\'ny fahaizana baiboly ve? Sa hatao indray hoe Mistery izany Zanako araka ny fahazaran\'dry Maopera? :D
4. ni81 ( 28/08/2009 09:01)
Dia iza ary no ho sahy hamaly an'io?? Ry zareo raitra amin'ny fahaizana baiboly ve? Sa hatao indray hoe Mistery izany Zanako araka ny fahazaran'dry Maopera?
Milamina fotsiny fa ho avy tsikelikely eo! Saingy efa faran'ny herinandro izao ka mety somary miandry kely @ alatsinainy any ianao e! :)
5. rzakarivola ( 28/08/2009 11:29)
tsimiandravola, xxx >>> Hiezaka aho hitondra aminao ny fanazavana fa tsy misy contradictoire mihitsy ao na ny kely aza, tsy ary fantatro aby akory ny rehetra, saingy inoako Jesosy izay nampanaiky ahy izany.
Tsoriko eto anefa, fa iray ihany no afaka tena hampahazava aminao tsara ny zavatra rehetra : Izy izay tompon'ny Soratra. Ary azonao anontaniana Izy, fa hamaly anao.
6. mion ( 28/08/2009 12:49)
rzakarivola >>>
sao de mba efa lasa ary nareo zany, asososasosan'ndri pastera.
Efa hita fa flagrant araka ny nolazain'i xxx ilay izy , ary mbola misy toko sy andininy mintsy.
Liana be aho ahita izay haavlinao , marina e
7. rzakarivola ( 28/08/2009 13:52)
[center]FOTOANA TSY NOFERANA[/center]
1) \"raha mihinana ny voankazo ianao dia ho faty\" ... \"rehefa feno 930 taona\".

2) Namela ny mpianany hitondra zavatra ve Jesosy sa tsia rehefa naniraka azy 12 ?
==> iza no mamaritra fa tsy missions nielanelana 3 mois ohatra ireo ? Ka t@ voalohany nasainy nitondra tehina sy kapa, t@ faharoa tsy nasainy nitondra na dia tehina aza ? Ny tantara nosoratan\'ny mpahafantatra, fa ny synoptique dia fandinihan\'izay mpamaky ny tantara.

... maro ireo fa tsy hotsimponiko tsirairay sao lava loatra
8. rzakarivola ( 28/08/2009 14:00)
[center]ANARANA TSY FENO NA ANARANA MITOVY[/center]
Betsaka ireo resaka anarana voalaza eo hoe "iza marina". Dia mitovy amin'izao ny fanontaniana :
Iza no Pdt ny Etazonia, Obama sa Barak ?
Dia mety ho Nathan Salomon ny anaran'ilay zanak'i Davida ... sns.
T@ izao gidragidra izao izao vao fantatro fa kay misy Nirina nenran'i Andry Rajoelina ... mety ho fanontaniana ary ny hoe "andry TGV sa Andry Rajoelina e?"
Anakiray hafa possible koa : Marc Ravalomanana sy ny Colonnel Ravalomanana (izay apparemment tsisy rohim-pihavanana akory).

Dia tahaka izany ireo anarana ao @ Baiboly. Misy ny anarana mitovy ary misy ny anarana roa na telo samihafa, kanefa olona iray ihany.
9. rzakarivola ( 28/08/2009 14:03)
[center]INTERPRETATION[/center]

xxx:
78. (a) God decided that the life span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
(b) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived
433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)

==> Ilay 120 taona, raha ny novakiako, dia délai nomen' Andriamanitra ny olombelona t@ andron'i Noah mba hibebahana. Izay no fe-potoana nanamboaran'i Noah ny sambofiara.
10. rzakarivola ( 28/08/2009 14:24)
[center]TANTARA/HAFATRA MIFAMENO[/center]
38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
(a) By the Sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
(b) On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)
==> ny onin'i Jordana dia mivarina ao @ farihy (na ranomasina) Galilia (izay antsoina koa hoe Tiberiasy) ... misy point ihaonan'ireo roa ireo izany


48. What did Jesus say about Peter’s denial?
(a) «The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times» (John 13:38).
(b) «Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times» (Mark 14:30). When the cock crowed
once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.
==> Betsaka ny fanazavana azo omena, fa ity misy anakiray : "The cock" ... akoholahy voafantina izy io izany, betsaka ny akoho mety haneno (mety ho roa), fa misy anakiray tsy mbola haneno akory dia ho in-telo Simona Petera no handà.
11. soanja ( 28/08/2009 14:28)
Ny baiboly dia tsy nosoratana teo no hoe tamin'ny andro nisehoan'ny zava-drehetra nitranga fa efa taon-jato faha 3 sy 4 any avokoa vao raikitra ny fanoratana azy miankina tamin'izay mpanoratra raha tantara no resahina ny ankamaroany. Afa tsy ireo Epistily moa izany dia izay taratasy nosoratana izay ho an'ny fiangonana izao sy izao sn sns... iny ilay izy mihitsy no nokajiana dia noraketiny. Iny aza mbola mety tsy ilay Apostoly no nanoratra fa "ny scribes" na ireo izay manao asa matihanina mpanoratra. Noho izany dia tsy ary ho tadidy antsakany sy andavany ny tantara ary koa misy fiovana eny ho eny satria miova araka ny tanan'ny mpanoratra sy ny heviny mifandraika amin'izany.

Tsy lafatra ny baiboly saingy ny tenin'Andriamanitra ao anatiny kosa LAFATRA tanteraka.
12. rzakarivola ( 28/08/2009 14:30)
[center]MANAMBARA NY FANAHY[/center]
Ny Baiboly mitantara zavatra niainan'ny olona sasany ara-nofo, mba hanehoan'i Jesosy fiainam-panahin'ny olona rehetra.
Tsy izaho no Jesosy, fa i Jesosy mahay manazava ny zava-drehetra @izay mangetaheta fahamarinana. Vavolombelona ny amin'izany aho.
13. cutie ( 28/08/2009 14:41)
Mpandefa : tsimiandravola [ Valio ] 28-08-2009 10:54:43
Lohateny : Re : Bon à savoir:qlq contradictions flagrantes dans la Bible
Dia iza ary no ho sahy hamaly an'io?? Ry zareo raitra amin'ny fahaizana baiboly ve? Sa hatao indray hoe Mistery izany Zanako araka ny fahazaran'dry Maopera?
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
14. ikaretsaka ( 28/08/2009 15:21)
Ny lesona tokony tsoahia de hoe raha vo mitsimpona de mitolila e... satria samy mitsimpona ze metimety aminy foana io
15. ikaretsaka ( 28/08/2009 16:26)
Betsaka ny fanazavana azo omena, fa ity misy anakiray : "The cock" ... akoholahy voafantina izy io izany,


aza mamorona...misy akoholahy voafantina izany koa???? :-D :-D :-D :-D
hanatitra akoholahimena eo aby koa fa
16. Veloo ( 29/08/2009 02:34)
You know, Jesus said that spiritual things are spiritually discerned, and the unbelievers will not see but the wise will see.
17. Veloo ( 29/08/2009 02:38)
na ny fanontaniana ary anie dia efa tsy mitovy e...
jereo anie ity e.

27.Jesus descended from which son of David?
(a) Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
(b) Nathan (Luke3: 31)


dia avy eo

35.Would Jesus inherit David’s throne?
(a) Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
(b) No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was
cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon David’s throne (Jeremiah 36:30)


ka iza marina no tena descendant n'i Jesosy e? to lasa olona telo no anontanianao???
18. Veloo ( 29/08/2009 02:48)
(a) Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis
2:17)
(b) Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)


tian'Andriamanitra ampisehona an'i Adama ny dikan'ny fahotana (pendant des generations et generations) sy ny vokany izay nataony mba ho tsapany ny tena atao hoe fahotana...nandalo taona betsaka mihitsy izy ary nahita ny faharatsian'ny olombelona pendant 930 ans, nangirifiry ary nalahelo izy taminy ny zavatra niseho nandritran'ny fotoana nihainanyfa akory atao. fa tsy nataon'Andriamanitra nihotra 1000 taona izy na olona hafa.
19. Veloo ( 29/08/2009 02:50)
78. (a) God decided that the life span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
(b) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived
433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)


rzakarivola [ Valio ] 28-08-2009 16:03:35
Lohateny : Re : Bon à savoir:qlq contradictions flagrantes dans la Bible
INTERPRETATION



Hoy i xxx:
78. (a) God decided that the life span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
(b) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived
433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)


==> Ilay 120 taona, raha ny novakiako, dia délai nomen' Andriamanitra ny olombelona t@ andron'i Noah mba hibebahana. Izay no fe-potoana nanamboaran'i Noah ny sambofiara.


marina ny anao
20. Veloo ( 29/08/2009 03:25)
79.Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
(a) No (John 3:13)
(b) Yes. «And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven» (2 Kings 2:11)


vakio hatramin'ny voalohany ny Jaona 3 dia ho fantatrao ny dikan'io oe tsy nisy niakatra tany an-danitra io...
tsy contradictoire zany io

tsy Elisa irery no niakatra any an-danitra fa i Mosesy sy Seta ko...
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